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AT UNREEL WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO
NIGEL COLE, THE DIRECTOR OF ‘CALENDAR GIRLS’. Nigel had just
returned from a trip to the States where he had been discussing his next
project, but managed to squeeze in some time to answer our questions even
though he was suffering with jetlag. Nigel’s history to date includes
the first series of the highly acclaimed ‘Cold Feet’. His
debut feature film was the much-loved ‘Saving Grace’ starring
Brenda Blethyn.
Q:
What initially attracted you to this film?
A: The money!
I was broke and I desperately needed a job! No it was just a fantastic
story, one that I had read about in the paper when it originally happened
and I thought ‘that would make a terrific film’. But I didn’t
do anything about it, so when the producers contacted me a year later
and asked me if I was interested I immediately was because I knew that
it was a really strong story. It seems to have everything: drama, humour,
character. I also thought that when you first hear about it, it sounds
like a traditional English comedy, which is fantastic, but it also seems
to be a very modern story. It’s about celebrity, overnight celebrity,
becoming famous for no good reason, and nowadays we’re surrounded
by reality television, ‘Big Brother’, instant pop stars, so
it seemed a very modern and appropriate story for our time. They’re
an ordinary person one minute, and on television the next. So I thought
it was more than just an excuse for a good comedy, it had something to
say as well.
Q: So did
you have your cast in mind when taking on the project?
A; No I didn’t,
but when I thought about it I very quickly realised that Helen and Julie
would be a great double act. I knew that they had never worked together
before and when we spoke to their agents we discovered that they had always
wanted to, and it seemed a really good opportunity to do just that.
Q: You appear
to have cast Helen and Julie against type too, with Helen playing the
more outgoing role and Julie taking on a quieter personality – what
were your thoughts behind that decision?
A: Yes, I’m
glad you spotted that. It was quite deliberate. I was worried that Helen’s
character could come across as irritating or just too full-on unless you
had an actress who could show her vulnerability, and Julie’s character
might seem a bit miserable unless we could find an actress who could find
the humour in it. So it occurred to me that if I cast them the wrong way
round as it were, they could both then find the added dimension in their
characters.
Q: Did their
names help you get the rest of the cast on board?
A: Well we
had Helen and Julie first, and it definitely helped as it showed the seriousness
of the project, but I think that when you’re handing out really
great parts to women over the age of forty then everybody is very keen.
There are not many parts like that for women of that age, and if you are
a woman in that group, you are just sick and tired of playing the wife.
So there were plenty of contenders.
Q: This film
has a distinctly British feel about it, how do you think that will go
down in the States?
A: Better
than here I think. They seem to love it in America, we’ve done some
testing and a couple of screenings out there. I think it’s more
the idea of very conservative English characters being naughty that plays
terribly well in America.
Q: Word has
it that you were a little nervous about filming the nude scenes –
was it the celebrity factor that made you hesitant?
A: I was nervous
because the actors were nervous. And so you think ‘Oh God this is
going to be difficult’ and you know there were ten actresses and
only one of me so I knew that they could gang up on me at any time. Myself
and the crew offered to go naked during the shoot, to put them at ease,
but they actually begged us to keep our clothes on! They had enough to
worry about without having looking at us.
Q: So how
were they once the clothes were off and the cameras were rolling?
A: Some of
the actresses got together just before we shot that section and got terribly
drunk with some of the real women and promised them that when they were
doing their naked shot they would go completely naked whether I needed
them to or not. So even if it was just a close up of their face they would
stand there completely naked because the real women had. They promised
them that they would have the same experience. Actually that made it quite
interesting as they were standing there completely naked even though they
could have had a swimsuit on or have been wearing a robe in some of the
shots, so that kind of added to the stakes. But they were all terribly
good at it. Surprisingly many of them were doing it for the first time.
I mean Julie and Helen had been naked before, but I think many of the
others hadn’t.
Q: Helen’s
renowned isn’t she?!
A; Yeah she
is, but she was still nervous. I think the only one who didn’t look
at all nervous was Annette Crosby. When you get to seventy, who cares?
She didn’t seem phased about it at all.
Q: After ‘Saving
Grace’ and ‘Calendar Girls’, you’re going to be
known for making quintessentially British films. Are you planning to continue
in the same direction?
A:
I’m only ever going to make films about middle aged women being
naughty. That’s all I can do, I wouldn’t be able to do anything
else. Well, Brenda Blethyn became a drug dealer in ‘Saving Grace’,
Helen and Julie and the others go naked in ‘Calendar Girls’.
I can’t think what I’m going to do next.
Q: Well, someone
has said to me that you were chatting to Cameron Diaz recently?
A: Ah, yes.
That’s true. I was in New York last week meeting her about a film.
Q: She’s
not middle aged!
A: No, well
actually yes she is, she’s forty-eight years old, it’s just
incredibly good make up. Enormous amounts of computer graphics go in to
making her look like that! (laughs). Yeah well I’m hoping to do
a film with her in the new year.
Q: Can you
tell us about that?
A: It’s
an American film, I can’t tell you anything about it, but it’s
going to be brilliant! What I like to do, and I think this will be the
same, is mix comedy and drama. I get bored if it’s all just jokes
and if it’s all too serious then I get kind of too flippant.
Q: Well that’s
the same kind of thing that you had with ‘Cold Feet’.
A: Exactly.
I can’t do anything unless it has both, it needs to be funny and
sad. And I think that the Cameron Diaz film is another one of those, it
has funny bits but it’s also touching. That’s what I like
to do, otherwise I get terribly bored.
Q: That should
be quite exciting for you and probably quite different as well ?
A: Well it’s
not so different, it’s a good story, good actors, still true to
life. So that is all the same, whether they live in America or Britain
doesn’t really make much difference; they’re all people really.
Q: There are
obvious comparisons being made between yourself and Stephen Daldry, who
had the great success with ‘The Hours’ following the surprise
smash hit ‘Billy Elliot’. How do you feel about that association?
A: I’m
the old Stephen Daldry! I’d prefer to be the new Sam Mendes I think.
But I think it’s great that there are plenty of directors who are
having international success. I think it’s really great. Luckily,
Americans still think you’re terribly clever if you have an English
accent! The reality is we’re not, but we can get away with sounding
terribly clever.
Sam, Stephen,
myself and others, we all started in theatre. I think it’s very
good background training, working with actors, which is what it’s
all about. Many directors that come up through the ranks these days have
done lots of commercials and a lot of music videos but they don’t
really know actors. If you have done low-budget theatre, which we all
started in, all you’ve got is actors, you can’t dazzle your
audience with fancy camera work and explosions. You just have to have
really good performances. So I think it trains your mind to think that
way.
Q: I understand
that some of the proceeds from the film are going to go to Leukaemia Research
Fund. What do you have planned?
A: Well, we
paid the real women a great deal of money to buy the film rights from
them and all that money is going to Leukaemia. I have to say those women
have worked full time since 1998, when they started doing the calendar.
They have worked full time and none of them have received a single penny
for it. They have raised nearly a million pounds now, and there have been
plenty of opportunities for them to take the money for themselves but
they haven’t, they’ve resisted it. They did a commercial for
soap powder like we show in the film, and gave all that money to charity,
plus all the money from the film. Disney and Penguin books are publishing
a new version of the calendar to coincide with the film and a big chunk
of that money is going to charity. There are going to be screenings up
and down the country that the WI are helping organise where all the money
will go to Leukaemia so hopefully we should double what they have already
raised.
Q: And did
they get that sofa in the end?!
A: Oh they
really did and there’s a whole new cancer wing at the local hospital
which has all been paid for by them.

Q: And finally,
here we wanted to know why all the Dames didn’t get involved, and
whether or not Judi Dench and Maggie Smith are upset that they missed
out on the opportunity to bare all to the nation?!
A: (Laughs)
I know, we’re missing them aren’t we ?! We did talk to Judi
about doing the film but she wanted to take six months off just as we
were beginning to start work on it, so she put herself out. I just didn’t
think Maggie Smith was believable as a woman from Yorkshire. I think she’s
far too wonderful and eccentric and enigmatic to be right for the film.
Ooh who else did we turn down . . . Britney Spears, Kylie Minogue, Martine
McCutcheon. They all wanted to do it but I said ‘No! You’re
too young!’. But I could have made the film twice, I really could.
I mean there were fantastic actresses who I’ve wanted to work with
all my life, some of whom have been nominated for Oscars, won BAFTAs,
and I had to say ‘I’m sorry I can’t find a part for
you’. It was quite extraordinary, they were all so keen to do it,
we could have kept going and going and going.
The funny
thing was, finding the male actors – a lot of men turned us down
because they said ‘Well, this part is a woman’s part, I’m
playing the wife here, it’s a supporting role’
Q: Well John
(Alderton) and Ciaran (Hinds) were superb.
A: Well they
were great, and hats off to them for taking the roles, because some male
actors were saying the parts weren’t big enough, and that they were
just playing a supporting role, and the actresses loved it, because they
felt they were getting their own back on men after all these years, because
they were getting offered the kind of parts that they normally have to
take, and vice versa.
Q: We at Cineworld
wish you every success. It is a truly beautiful film. You deserve success
in bucket loads. I took my daughter with me to see it we both laughed
and cried. It is a very moving film.
A: Well thank
you. Help us to persuade the world that it’s not only middle-aged
women who will enjoy this but that everybody will.
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