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So,
why don't we see more of this comedic side of you?
Because
I don't make any steady diet of any particular kind of film. I like to
do all different kinds of movies, and much of what I've seen in the past,
which has come my way, comedies, I didn't really care that much for.
Ron Shelton
said you agreed to do this after seeing only forty pages of script, why'd
you agree?
The character,
I thought, was a great character. I could see the relationship between
he and the character that Josh [Hartnett] plays. I thought that would
produce some good, comic results, and I wanted to work with Ron. I've
always loved his work, and I'd been planning a film which sort of fell
through and so, I was ready to go to work and they were willing to push
this project forward and Ron was very collaborative about it. We had a
good time.
You and Josh
had a good chemistry, was that from the beginning or as you go to know
each other?
That's acting,
that's acting. These characters had very clear differences between them
and we had the opportunity to take advantage. We had a script that described
the differences and we took advantage of the differences, generational
differences, and different styles and taste and point of view, and all
of that is great comic opportunity, and Josh is a very capable, personable
young man and I enjoyed acting with him, torturing him.
How did you
torture him?
It seemed
almost enough just to show up.
How do you
feel about the film's sort of critique of acting in that it compares your
reaction with JOSH'S?
It's a joke.
It's a joke, but it's a funny joke. I think that my character would of
course think that acting was a stupid thing to do. So, I thought that
it was a good joke.
Has your craft
become easier or harder over the years?
Well, I think
that it's like anything that you practice. It gets to be second nature,
and then, you get to a case that you've never seen before and suddenly,
you don't necessarily know how to work your way through it, but your experience
and history helps guide you through it. Look, if acting wasn't easy and
fun for me, I wouldn't be doing it. It's hard work and it's concentrated
work. It takes a lot of focus and determination to get the best out of
everything that you worked on if that's your goal and that certainly is
mine, but it's certainly better than a real job.
What about
people shouting your name when you're trying to shoot a scene on the street,
is it easier now than it used to be?
There's a
legal term for being out in the street in people's faces. It's called
being an attractive nuisance and you expect people to be a nuisance, but
the fact that you're out there is what motivates them. It's no big deal.
How is it
shooting in the streets of LA?
It was great.
We had a lot of cooperation from the Los Angeles film commission, the
merchants along Hollywood Boulevard, we had very good cooperation from
L.A.P.D. There were three or four movies shooting on Hollywood Boulevard
while we were there. It was ridiculous. 'Charlie's Angels' and 'S.W.A.T'
and I have no idea [who else].
I
read that there was one day when three films were trying to use the same
location?
I didn't notice
that. I did go to the wrong trailer for the wrong movie.
When was the
first time that you realized you were a public nuisance?
When I was
I making the third of the 'Star Wars' films. I went to Morocco for a couple
of weeks while I wasn't needed, and I rented a little car and driving
across the desert and I went into Morocco and I came to Fez, one of the
oldest cities in North Africa, and all the edge of town in Fez was a movie
theatre that was playing two movies that I was in. That's when I thought
that it was all over.
What have
you thought of the latest two 'star wars' movies?
You know,
they're different. They're very different in intention, and they're very
different in nature than the ones that we made and the audience has changed.
I think that George [Lucas] has made movies that he reckons to be more
appropriate for the audience that's out there now. There was no such thing
as a videogame. A videogame when we made 'Star Wars' was probably some
ancient version of 'Pac Man' or 'Hollywood Squares', but the world has
changed a lot and the films have changed because of that.
When you go
on set, and see people who aren't working with the crew and being polite,
does that upset you?
Yeah, as I
would in any job. If I was still a carpenter, and there was someone behaving
that way, I wouldn't be happy.
Have you ever
spoken up about that sort of disrespect?
In the past,
when I've come across directors that yell and that sort of thing, I've
asked them to please not do that around me.
Can you talk
about getting a star on the walk of fame? And there was someone with your
name?
Yeah, it seems
an unusual name, but there was a silent screen star in the twenties whose
name was Harrison Ford and when I first came to Hollywood thirty five
years ago, there was a star out in front of Franks with my name on it,
but I never even thought about getting a star because I figured that most
people figured for the last twenty years or so that that was my star.
So, I wasn't all that worried about it. So, I was kind of surprised that
they would do this, and happily, it's on the occasion of the opening of
my latest film. So, that helps promote the film and I'm grateful for that
opportunity.
Have you seen
the script for 'Indiana Jones IV' yet?
I haven't
seen it. I've heard about it. We all got together and talked about it
before they started writing, but I haven't seen a final print yet.
What input
have you had into the story?
Oh, I'm not
ready to talk about that.
Will
the comment you made about wanting your leading ladies to be forty or
older effect Indie?
I never said
anything like that, but I think that that was, for instance, a good idea
for this film, that I didn't have a young, ingénue girlfriend because
we were talking about generational issues, old school, new school, new
style, old style. I thought that it would be nice to have a lady of a
certain maturity who's still sexy and funny, and attractive.
So, if you
didn't say that, where did that come from?
Gee, I don't
know [Laughs]. I guess that someone made something up. Surprise, surprise,
but it's certainly fair enough interpretation, but I never said that.
I had certain influence over the casting of my girlfriend and I made it
known that I thought that this was the way we should go.
How was working
with lena olin?
Great. She's
a terrific, charming, sweet lady. A wonderful actress, and a lot of our
love scenes were sort of semi improvised, and she's very quick to pick
up the thread, and I enjoyed working with her. I had a good time.
At this point
in your life, how do you feel about being the mature one in roles?
It doesn't
bother me at all. I think that I clearly am not a contemporary of Josh
Hartnett's but there are still a lot of roles available for people of
my age as Sean Connery has absolutely demonstrated. You know, you can
continue to work far beyond what my age is at the moment. So, I'm very
happy, and I've never been an ageist, or concerned that much with age.
Do you think
that it's harder to make it in hollywood today?
It's never
been easy. It's always been a fight against the odds. I think that there
are a lot of talented young actors these days. There's a lot more product
now than there was when I was first coming up in the business. So maybe
more of them will have a chance, but there was also, when I was first
starting, a pretty limiting idea of what a leading man was, and a lot
of that has changed as well now. They have a lot more variety in the types
of people who are doing leading men roles, and so, I think that's a good
thing. I think that it may well have been harder when I was coming up
simply because studios were still bent on the idea of the old studio system
of making stars, and then, owning them which is something that they got
over a very few years after they met me, not because of me, but they just
stopped doing that sort of thing.
Weren't you
a reluctant star?
Well, my ambition
was to make a living as an actor, and not to have to do something else,
and so, I never thought that I would get leading man roles, and that was
sort of accidental. I thought that I was going to be a character actor,
and never really had any focused ambition beyond working regularly. So,
I was as surprised as anyone when some of the films that I was involved
in took off, and I had opportunities that I had never anticipated.
Has
playing a real estate agent helped in your house hunting?
I'm not house
hunting anymore, but I was always a pretty good judge of the value of
housing.
Are you not
looking because you found a place?
I have the
same house that I've had here for twenty years.
Is there a
perception that l.a. cops don't have other jobs, and are you worried about
the realism aspect?
No, not at
all. I think that it's well explained in the film, it comes up at an appropriate
juncture, people get it, and I don't think that people are going to be
too worried about the issue of realism in this film once they recognize
that they're in an entertainment context here. It is based on reality.
There was a scene, for instance, the murder investigation. Bob had written
that they go to the refrigerator and pull out a couple of beers and I
said, 'I think that's a wrong thing to do here. I think that's going to
pull people out of the movie, and that people would then begin to judge
these guys on a moral basis because of what they know of police,' and
he said, 'Well, it really happened,' and I said, 'Well, it doesn't really
matter whether it really happened. We're going to get to that place somewhere
down the line, but lets not go there in the very first scene.' I mean,
we had these kinds of collaborative discussions, and found the tone of
the piece, I think, pretty easily.
Is there a
screen role or a project that you have in mind?
No, I don't
think that way. I love to look at each project that comes across my desk
for its own particular virtues and whether or not it seems like a good
idea at this time, and balance it with other things that I have on my
plate, but I don't think that's in terms and in abstract of some role
that I'd like to play.
No historic
figure or something?
No.
Do you have
an idea of how many films you like to do a year?
I've always
done one film a year. Sometimes, there's been a little overlap and some
scheduling issues, but normally, it's one film a year.
Have you ever
been interested in directing?
Nah, it's
too hard, it takes too long and it doesn't pay well enough.
What are you
looking forward to about playing Indie again?
The opportunity
to work with Steven [Spielberg] and playing that character, and bring
that kind of film to the audience that I know has eagerly anticipated
it, and I want us to do a good job and make a film at least as good as
the ones we've made before.
Why is he
so special a character to you?
He's not so
special to me. Like I said, it pleases me to play a character that audiences
want to see.
Were you involved
in with Frank Darabont or was that just George and Steven?
The
way that the process works is that George and Frank work together and
then, Steven gets the script and then, I get the script and we all work
together.
Is Sean Connery
going to be in the next one?
I don't know.
As I said, I haven't gotten the script yet. So, I don't know. I would
like that he would be. I know that it brought a lot of comic opportunity.
Do you plan
to work with Calista [Flockhart] in a movie?
No plan. I
have a little reservation about mixing business and pleasure, about working
with someone that you live with and I'm not so sure how that would work
out.
Any wedding
plans?
I'm sorry?
How difficult
is all the media attention on the relationship?
It doesn't
make the relationship anymore difficult.
But what about
going out?
It's ludicrous.
It's invasive. It's very annoying, but I don't think that it affects our
relationship.
If you could
turn back the clock, would you do anything differently or Do you just
feel like 'this is where i am'?
I think that
the latter. You can't really anticipate this kind of life experience and
it's been a pretty good ride, I'll tell you. It's been a very engaging
experience so far. There are still a lot of things that I'd like to do
and I hope that I'd have time enough to do some of them.
Such As?
Travel a bit
more, and a lot of things, little personal things that I want to do.
What's your
weirdest encounter with a fan?
I don't know.
I mean, I don't really think of them as fans, they're customers. So you
know, really, the only difficulty of it is when there are a lot of people
and the energy gets a little out of control, but normally, I'm happy enough
to say hello to someone.
Did you ever
get mobbed?
Yeah, sure.
I mean, it becomes very intrusive in your private life when you're out
with your kids and stuff and people begin to ask to take pictures and
want you to sign a little piece of paper or something, but you do the
best you can.
What about
people who want you to read a script?
That certainly
has happened, but usually, I explain that, 'I can't do that. I can't take
their script, thank you very much.'
Two hundred
million dollar thing for Calista to be in a magazine with you or not?
They're still
getting back to me on that one.
What did she
think about the comment you made about the whip?
I doubt that
she reads online interviews.
Do
you think that josh has the qualities of a younger harrison ford?
No, I think
that he's a very different kind of beast. Ron is sure that we're from
different planets, and I don't know what planet that Josh is from, but
he's a very different guy. He grew up in a very different world than I
did, but he's serious about his work. Maybe that's something that we have
in common. He cares, and I think that he does very well and has already
very well.
What drives
you?
I like to
work and I like to do a good job on whatever I'm working on, that's what
drives me.
Do you still
do carpentry?
Not very much
anymore. I've just lost it. I was a finish carpenter, cabinet maker and
I sort of lost the skills. That's something that you have to practice
and keep up.
Does it bother
you that your salary is public record?
It has been
for twenty years. It's not a good deal.
Did you do
any research for this, spend any time at L.A.P.D.?
I spent a
little time because there was information that I needed. I wanted to know
about a couple of things, especially the Internal Affairs investigation
and how that all worked and I wanted to play cops five or six times, and
I wanted to sort of, for myself, discover what was singular and distinctive
about L.A.P.D. as opposed to departments in other places that I've been
to.
What did you
find?
That they
have a real sense of themselves as a very professional police department.
They're very concerned about their image. They have rules about whether
or not you can open your collar and pull your tie down and you're supposed
to keep a jacket on at all times, and that sort of thing. They're very
professional. They look real sharp, and there are obvious differences
between a New York street cop and an L.A.P.D. policemen and it's purposeful.
Were there
a lot of cops that you talked to that wanted to be actors?
There was
someone who wasn't just a wannabe, but did actually act from time to time.
I met a woman who introduced herself as the singing detective.
Did you base
the character on anyone that you met there?
No, not really.
This character
has a latin last name, what country would you like his Family to be from?
I always thought
of him as having a mother who was Peruvian Indian, that helped me a lot.
If you were
a cop, would you be good cop or bad cop?
Oh, I'm always
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